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Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #719
SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 719
Today's Topics:
View of STS-40 from the Mission Evaluation Room
Re: Traxler says: WAKE UP!!!!
Re: Fred's Operatic Death
Re: INFO: Clandestine Mars Observer Launch?
[l/m 7/11] Frequently asked SPACE questions
Re: L-5 Society is now National Space Society (NSS)
Administrivia:
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In article <1991Jun8.065311.28270@sequent.com> szabo@sequent.com writes:
>Henry, I agree with you that EOS is also oversized, but a <$10
>billion program just does not produce the same kind of threat
>as a $120 billion program. When Fred is finished, I'll have a go
>at turning EOS into something more efficient.
>
You are using lifetime costs of two programs of VERY different lengths.
Freedom will (so they say...) cost $120 billion over the next 37 years,
(30-year life starting in 1999). If I recall correctly, the EOS program
as it is now budgeted will not run nearly this long. A better comparison
would be the cost of ALL the EOS-type research that will be done over the
next 4 decades.
Frank Crary
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Date: 5 Jun 91 00:30:11 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!think.com!rpi!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!telly!moore!eastern!egsgate!Uucp@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert)
Subject: Re: INFO: Clandestine Mars Observer Launch?
In article <852@newave.UUCP> john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes:
>
>If you are interested in this type of information, consider subscribing
>to the paranet mailing list.
Since this newsgroup is sci.space, I would encourage those who want
to post Paranet's stuff (and other second-source material) to think long
and hard about wether it's up to any scientific standards. Hoagland's isn't
really (and don't start on me why; I talked to him myself, as well as the
NASA people who can debunk him, and the reason that he's still around is
mostly that the scientists were PR idiots and never published a negative-
results paper and sat on their enhanced and second-angle data).
The Lunar stuff was, however, appropriate.
-george william herbert
gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu
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Date: 10 Jun 91 11:02:04 GMT
From: eagle!data.nas.nasa.gov!amelia!eugene@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 7/11] Frequently asked SPACE questions
This list does change. Slowly. It only changes when the members
of s.s. have something to add, correct, etc. I no longer have time to
read s.s., and the SNR is too low. So if this
does not change it is more a reflection of the other people
you are reading, and not me. Think about that for a moment.
You make the difference.
"It's not a message. I think it's a warning." -- Ripley
This is a list of frequently asked questions on SPACE (which goes back
before 1980). It is developing. Good summaries will be accepted
in place of the answers given here. The point of this is to circulate
existing information, and avoid rehashing old answers. Better to
build on top than start again. Nothing more depressing than rehashing
old topics for the 100th time. References are provided because they
give more complete information than any short generalization.
Questions fall into three basic types:
1) Where do I find some information about space?
Try you local public library first. You do know how to use a library, don't
you? Can't tell these days. The net is not a good place to ask for
general information. Ask INDIVIDUALS if you must. There are other sources,
use them, too. The net is a place for open ended discussion.
2) I have an idea which would improve space flight?
Hope you aren't surprised but 9,999 out of 10,000 have usually been
thought of before. Again, contact a direct individual source for
evaluation. NASA fields thousands of these each day.
3) Miscellanous queries. Sorry, have to take them case by case.
Initially, this message will be automatically posted once per month
and hopefully, we can cut it back to quarterly. In time questions and
good answers will be added (and maybe removed, nah).
1) What happen to Saturn V plans? What about reviving the Saturn V
as a heavy-lift launcher?
Possible but very expensive -- tools, subcontractors, plans, facilities
are gone or converted for the shuttle, and would need rebuilding,
re-testing, or even total redesign.
2) Where can I learn about space computers: shuttle, programming,
core memories?
%J Communications of the ACM
%V 27
%N 9
%D September 1984
%K Special issue on space [shuttle] computers
%A Myron Kayton
%T Avionics for Manned Spacecraft
%J IEEE Transactions on Aerospace and Electronic Systems
%V 25
%N 6
%D November 1989
%P 786-827
Other various AIAA and IEEE publications.
Computers in Spaceflight: The NASA Experience
James E. Tomayko
1988?
3) SETI computation articles?
%A D. K. Cullers
%A Ivan R. Linscott
%A Bernard M. Oliver
%T Signal Processing in SETI
%J Communications of the ACM
%V 28
%N 11
%D November 1984
%P 1151-1163
%K CR Categories and Subject Descriptors: D.4.1 [Operating Systems]:
Process Management - concurrency; I.5.4 [Pattern Recognition]:
Applications - signal processing; J.2 [Phsyical Sciences and Engineering]:
astronomy
General Terms: Design
Additional Key Words and Phrases: digital Fourier transforms,
